Stocks: What markets are thinking about Fed's rate timeline
The US stock market (^DJI, ^IXIC, ^GSPC) is making moves to the upside following the Federal Reserve's decision to pause interest rates and Chair Jerome Powell's press conference. Vanguard Global Head of Portfolio Construction Roger Aliaga-Diaz joins Yahoo Finance to comment on the biggest challenges on the Fed's horizon whenever it starts to cut rates in 2024.
"With higher growth this time comes higher inflation. So whether we're going to have that tailwind... is still yet to come," Aliaga-Diaz says. "In our view, inflation will remain stubborn. We think the Fed has more revisions to do in terms of the rate cuts and we feel it will be very difficult for them to get through that first cut unless the inflation picture really starts moving downward."
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Editor's note: This article was written by Luke Carberry Mogan.
Video Transcript
JOSH LIPTON: Let's now welcome in Roger Aliagas-Diaz, Vanguard global head of portfolio construction. Roger, it is good to see you. So we have a rally here on Wall Street. Roger, I'm looking here just green across the screen. All three major averages S&P 500 breaking above 5,200 for the first time Roger. But let's get your reaction. What did you make of what the Fed did and said today?
ROGER ALIAGA-DIAZ: Yeah. I know, I think the market reaction is understandable at the surface, the S&P that you guys were just describing, it seems very dovish. So they revise up the growth projections, they revised up the inflation projections. They were at 2, 4 before there are 2, 6 now. Yet, they still think they will cut three times this year. So that is a very dovish signal to the market. And I say the surface because below the surface, how the different dots move shows a little bit more-- less easy.
JULIE HYMAN: Roger, Julie here. Did I say Goldilocks, is it time to bring back that word?
ROGER ALIAGA-DIAZ: Well, it's certainly Goldilocks was last year and the question is if those same supply side forces that Powell referred to in the conference will continue. Because with higher growth, this time comes higher inflation. So whether we're going to have that tailwind, that really allowed the Fed last year to have high growth with lowering or decreasing inflation is still yet to come.
In our view the inflation will remain stubborn. We think that the Fed has more revisions to do in terms of the rate cuts. We feel that it's going to be very difficult for them to get to that first cut unless the inflation picture really starts moving downwards.
JOSH LIPTON: To that point Roger, I want to ask you this question. When you see the stock market reaction like this, this is a boost to financial conditions Roger. I mean, doesn't this-- doesn't this complicate Jay Powell's work ahead?
ROGER ALIAGA-DIAZ: Yeah, absolutely. I think financial conditions what effects are things that should be factored in? And that's-- it's a form of policy mistake in some sense, in a slight way. Because by moving up, the growth and inflation projections yet saying that they are going to cut the same. They are sending a signal to the market, which in turn as you suggest, makes the job more difficult to bring inflation down, which is ultimately what they want.
JULIE HYMAN: So put it all together for us. Risk on for as far as the eye can see. Roger, what are the risks to this continued rally and exemplified by the reaction that we're seeing today.
ROGER ALIAGA-DIAZ: Yeah. No. To me, the risk is-- basically and we have seen it since December honestly that the markets are buying this idea of a soft landing, declaring victory too soon. In our view, I think basically we will have to get back to reality at some point. If inflation continues being stubbornly high or not lowering enough, eventually the Fed will have to postpone and put off the date of the first cut more and more.
And that's where we can see a little bit more volatility in the market. So that's a risk that I think as investors, we need to keep in mind.
JOSH LIPTON: And Roger, I'm interested in another issue here. We do have a very divisive election coming up here. I'm just wondering to what extent, if at all you think that's also impacting the Fed's decisions?
ROGER ALIAGA-DIAZ: Yeah. I mean, the problem I think would be when, with the timing of the first cut, if it falls right there in the September time frame, it could complicate things. Not that the Fed is not going to do what they need to do based on monetary policy. But ultimately the pressure and the criticism they will receive, whether they do it or they don't do it will put them in the public scrutiny. So that's something that may limit a little bit of what they can do.
JULIE HYMAN: Roger, thank you so much for your time. Appreciate it.