There is growing pressure on President Joe Biden to drop out of the 2024 race, with some suggesting it could happen as soon as this weekend.

The Bulwark editor at large Bill Kristol joins Catalysts to give insight into the pressure Biden is facing. Kristol says most of the Democratic party leadership is "on board with the notion that President Biden's going to lose, most likely. And they can't really make the case that he is the right guy for four more years." Kristol adds that he has "never quite seen, in my days in Washington, this much coordinated pressure, almost universal I'm gonna say, from the serious leaders of the party, some of them saying it, some of them not saying it. But Biden can be stubborn."

When it comes to what would happen after Biden steps down, if he does at all, Kristol thinks people are "overdoing it, a little bit, the notion that there will be total chaos." He argues it could be "a little crazy" given how infrequently this happens, but ultimately "Democrats are going to unite against Trump."

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This post was written by Nicholas Jacobino and Stephanie Mikulich